DEE: Basically Christ talks about … when you give a cup of water to a poor man, you given it to me, you know what I mean? That's were God is. You're not running to the mountain looking for God. God is down here. If you want to find God, go help people. He's waiting for you there to encourage you and to be with you through that. And that's were he is. When people say how can these people be starving? Where is God? Then I say: Where are you? Where are we?

song: Blessed Persistence

Interviewer: Since it is a Sunday morning, did you find any time to go to church?
DEE: I didn't even know it was Sunday [laughing]. I haven't known what day it is, since I left home.
I: This isn't a special day for you as a Christian?
DEE: No, I mean, it is in a way. That's the day I go to church. But I can't go really regularly, cause I'm gone all the time. So every day has to be Sunday.
I: So what do you do to practice your faith?
DEE: Oh, I don't know. I try not to practice it, I try to just live it, you know. It's not sort of a ritual that I go through or anything like that.
I: It's not reading the bible every morning?
DEE: That would be a good thing to do, but I don't do that every day, no. Religion to me … it's obvious that it's not pure or it's not necessarily what we need. Because it obviously doesn't work. And the conflicts between it are so great. But spirituality itself, and in a way of thinking about it … it's God and Christ and his spirit … and the Devil as well and what he does.

song: Splinters

I: Your last record is beautiful, but a more sober album. To what extend is the record influence by the events of last year?
DEE: It was nothing conscious, you know. There was no effort to make a statement or even a particular feeling in the music itself. It was just … I mean, I sort of make that kind of music with those things in mind all the time anyway. So, it wasn't like a big shock to me that changed me, make me think in a different way. It gave a little bit more a sense of urgency to what I speak about, I guess, to me.

But speaking about relationships between people, whether it be mass groups of people, or one on one, it is nothing different. It's the same problems, it's the same conflicts. Murdering 1 people or 11.000 is … the same, really.
I: It is?
DEE: It comes from the same source and it's out the same attitude and the same spirit.

This interview was conducted by Dutch TV-station, VPRO at the Lowlands Festival in Biddinghuizen (NL). The programme broadcasted, in between the interview, live versions of Blessed Persistence and Splinters, which were performed earlier that day. For more frames have a look at the tourtrail of Lowlands 2002.